tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-591179528445148028.post2181362494729329694..comments2012-07-19T18:16:11.736+02:00Comments on ppenz: Selecting ItemsAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10339806249189186547noreply@blogger.comBlogger66125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-591179528445148028.post-32275242344018554842010-12-02T16:51:55.168+01:002010-12-02T16:51:55.168+01:00I know this blog post is old, but it would be so m...I know this blog post is old, but it would be so much better if the automatic selecting on hover just worked.<br />In mouse settings you can enable that files are automatically selected upon hovering them for a short time (like Windows does since Windows 98!! and they got away from the single-click-idea why can't KDE do this in 2010?) and not having to look for a small icon.Kai Uwehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08289205061110807804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-591179528445148028.post-86645352945342623952008-05-27T07:36:00.000+02:002008-05-27T07:36:00.000+02:00@effze:> 1. The mouse-cursor float-hilite thing> I...@effze:<BR/>> 1. The mouse-cursor float-hilite thing<BR/>> I find very disconcerting.<BR/><BR/>We might think about making it less resource hungry or obtrusive, but we won't turn it off completely as it is necessary to give the user feedback whether clicking on the file will trigger it or not <I>before</I> he clicks.<BR/><BR/><BR/>> 2. It would be nice if<BR/>> "type to locate" would work properly.<BR/><BR/>This is fixed in KDE 4.1.<BR/><BR/>> 3. Tab order when in filter mode<BR/>> could be more intelligent<BR/><BR/>I agree; I just did not have the time yet fixing this.<BR/><BR/>> 4. In combination with (1) above,<BR/>> rubberbanding is a nightmare,<BR/>> especially in detail view.<BR/>> The reason is that the whole column<BR/>> width is hilited<BR/><BR/>In Qt 4 it is not possible anymore in an easy way making only parts of a column selectable... Before introducing hacks that might again have side effects I decided to leave it as it is in the meantime. I hope in Qt 4.5 there will be a way to adjust this.<BR/><BR/>> Keep up the good work!<BR/><BR/>Thanks :-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10339806249189186547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-591179528445148028.post-853105682378604682008-05-27T04:59:00.000+02:002008-05-27T04:59:00.000+02:00First let me say that I really like Dolphin and re...First let me say that I really like Dolphin and really liked the promise of the KDE3 release. These comments are only because I like the program; I wouldn't bother otherwise! So please take this all as constructive (thx!)<BR/><BR/>A few comments about the way KDE4 Dolphin is going usability wise...<BR/><BR/>1. The mouse-cursor float-hilite thing I find very disconcerting. I've tried to get used to it, but find the old KDE3 dolphin (&Konq) mouse interaction to be much more intuitive. Besides, it also slows the GUI down no end, because it seems to be on all the time even when rubberbanding and such. Perhaps the hilite can appear after some period of hovering over an item, or perhaps the behaviour could be configured: as now | as above | off?<BR/><BR/>2. It would be nice if "type to locate" would work properly. At the moment, it works but you can't see that you've located anything (down-cursor confirms location). This is especially irritating in Detail view, the one I use a lot of the time for more power-user file ops.<BR/><BR/>3. Tab order when in filter mode could be more intelligent ie. tab from filter focuses directly to file list, then shift tab back to filter (or tab to toggle between the two?)<BR/><BR/>4. In combination with (1) above, rubberbanding is a nightmare, especially in detail view. The reason is that the whole column width is hilited, meaning that clicking way to the right of the filename (in whitespace) still actions it. In all views, it would be better to action the file only if the user has clicked on the icon or the text itself, and not some big bunch of whitespace around it. This makes it much easier to accidentally launch a file, and in 1-click KDE mode, this is defo <B>not</B> a desirable behaviour.<BR/><BR/>Keep up the good work!<BR/><BR/>effzee :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-591179528445148028.post-88114662507803790782008-05-22T10:45:00.000+02:002008-05-22T10:45:00.000+02:00What about a little border/frame around the icon i...What about a little border/frame around the icon in which you can put a number of icons for useful tasks?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-591179528445148028.post-82793541572625982892008-05-03T13:32:00.000+02:002008-05-03T13:32:00.000+02:00You know, these days, there are mice with as many ...You know, these days, there are mice with as many as seven buttons (apart from the usual 5, there are those on the sides of the mice).<BR/><BR/>Why not enable selection on one of these extra buttons and still have the hover icon and the single click. This way, you can select many items with a single 'right-right' click and open all of them with a left click on the last item to be selected.<BR/><BR/>I've always felt that linux underutilizes these extra mouse buttons (including those of joysticks and lirc remote controls) and thus the adoption of such devices has slackened doe to lack of "content" from the UI?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-591179528445148028.post-3989988270331377002008-04-25T00:59:00.000+02:002008-04-25T00:59:00.000+02:00Suggestion:Instead of using a single tiny icon for...Suggestion:<BR/><BR/>Instead of using a single tiny icon for adding/removing the current icon to selection, the entire blue "blop" around the icon could be clickable.<BR/><BR/>Already this blop is used to indicate if an icon is selected (dark blue blop) or not (no blop), so I find it intuitive that clicking the blop toggles selection.<BR/><BR/>For opening the icon, one would need to click on the icon itself or its text.<BR/><BR/>Open: click icon<BR/>Toggle selection: click blop<BR/><BR/>Does this make sense?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-591179528445148028.post-36049765139662540732008-04-23T09:16:00.000+02:002008-04-23T09:16:00.000+02:00"The icons used aren't attractive. Someone suggest..."The icons used aren't attractive. Someone suggested a tick (V) and cross (x) I agree that that would be better"<BR/><BR/>Here we have the issues that different places have different customs. In Finland, the cross (x) it the typical way of selecting checkboxes and the like, whereas tick (v) is practically unused in this context.<BR/><BR/>I have also seen that elsewhere the tick is used to mark the correct answer, whereas the cross is used to mark the incorrect answer. Over here the usual way is to mark correct answer with a different symbol (that my keyboard does not support), while the tick is used to mark the incorrect answer. Well, it's not a tick as such, but a letter "v", which is short for "väärin" or "wrong".Jannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02488899319457962036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-591179528445148028.post-34995414110507211872008-04-18T21:26:00.000+02:002008-04-18T21:26:00.000+02:00@Ivan:Thanks for the hint, I was not aware about t...@Ivan:<BR/>Thanks for the hint, I was not aware about this (I fixed it for the scroll wheel already, but not in combination with the keyboard). It is a Qt-issue (http://trolltech.com/developer/task-tracker/index_html?id=200665&method=entry), but I'll bypass this in Dolphin for 4.1 (currently the Qt-issue is targeted for 4.5.0).Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10339806249189186547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-591179528445148028.post-24346051372693202462008-04-18T20:39:00.000+02:002008-04-18T20:39:00.000+02:00There is a bug concerning the selecting thingy tha...There is a bug concerning the selecting thingy that makes the selecting thingy appear misplaced.<BR/><BR/>Steps to reproduce:<BR/>Step 1. Activate a list view (probably works with other views as well) in a directory with larger ammount of items (so that the view is scrollable)<BR/>Step 2. Hover a file so that + appears<BR/>Step 3. Enter a letter to focus on a file that is not currently displayed so that autoscroll happens.<BR/><BR/>The selecting thingie will remain in the same place it was earlier... while the files are scrolled.<BR/><BR/>It is not difficult to achieve that + is in fact between two files.Ivan Čukićhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15823868861262537935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-591179528445148028.post-2690017182180494802008-04-15T15:27:00.000+02:002008-04-15T15:27:00.000+02:00@Peter> this feature is already available in the S...@Peter<BR/>> this feature is already available in the SVN trunk version of Dolphin :-) Stay tuned for KDE 4.1...<BR/><BR/>Yeah! Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-591179528445148028.post-79976583949314626742008-04-15T15:24:00.000+02:002008-04-15T15:24:00.000+02:00@Emanuele: this feature is already available in th...@Emanuele: this feature is already available in the SVN trunk version of Dolphin :-) Stay tuned for KDE 4.1...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10339806249189186547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-591179528445148028.post-90646676211303791582008-04-15T15:21:00.000+02:002008-04-15T15:21:00.000+02:00Hi! Konqueror has a nice function that allows you ...Hi! Konqueror has a nice function that allows you to copy/move a/any files wherever you want, just right clicking and selecting "copy to..." or "move to...". I wish this beautiful feature will be implemented in Dolphin. This could allow Dolphin to be THE file manager, IMHO. I hope this will happen. :) Nice jobAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-591179528445148028.post-5480745660029723482008-04-15T04:29:00.000+02:002008-04-15T04:29:00.000+02:00@Peter,Thank you for your quick response. I am gla...@Peter,<BR/><BR/>Thank you for your quick response. I am glad to have the trash back. I had actually tried before what you told me to do, but my intuition had told me to right-click the "Places" panel to add an entry. Instead, one has to right-click the breadcrumb or the file view panel. I simply did not try this... well, again, thank you!mutluhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02974196962482417101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-591179528445148028.post-11108785211055570732008-04-14T07:20:00.000+02:002008-04-14T07:20:00.000+02:00@Kde: please just enter "trash://" into the locati...@Kde: please just enter "trash://" into the location bar of Dolphin, go to an empty area of the view, open a context menu and select "Add to Places..." :-) It seems quite a lot users accidentally removed the trash, we'll check whether it makes sense to disable the remove button in this case.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10339806249189186547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-591179528445148028.post-23338809882790838082008-04-14T00:52:00.000+02:002008-04-14T00:52:00.000+02:00Dear Peter,First of all thank you for your great w...Dear Peter,<BR/><BR/>First of all thank you for your great work! Dolphin is a wonderful tool.<BR/><BR/>I have a probably quite silly question: I have no idea how to get back items deleted from the "Places" panel. I accidentally deleted the trash and miss it since.<BR/><BR/>Thanks in advance!mutluhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02974196962482417101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-591179528445148028.post-6301027821457277042008-04-03T15:48:00.000+02:002008-04-03T15:48:00.000+02:00@Fri13That's a different idea altogether (icon "st...@Fri13<BR/><BR/>That's a different idea altogether (icon "stacks"). It has nothing to do with selecting objects, although it could work orthogonaly to regular selection.<BR/><BR/>That same concept of an object stack could be implemented in a much saner way with something as simple as a temporary folder: just shove your files into this temporary folder, or create symlinks into it.<BR/><BR/>Of course, the GUI could help, for instance displaying the contents of the stack folder into a split window, panel, or whatever, and ensuring that items tossed onto it are always saved as symlinks. It could even be built as a permanent plasmoid on the panel!<BR/><BR/>IMO, a neat idea, indeed, and a better way of moving items around than the very twisted "copy file" - "paste file" paradigm.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09407440812633442878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-591179528445148028.post-20032655606813690942008-04-03T10:35:00.000+02:002008-04-03T10:35:00.000+02:00http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Special+Stack...http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Special+Stack+for+Selecting+Items?content=54232<BR/><BR/>Just add that kind function for Dolphin Kpart (for konqueror too!) when selecting images and there would not be any doupt what file is selected and what is not. Then just make selecting easy with one click but so it dont break intuitive working way how selection works on all other apps, on web pages, image editor's, music editors, text editos etc etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-591179528445148028.post-68671226956173402852008-04-02T19:10:00.000+02:002008-04-02T19:10:00.000+02:00@Nathan:> Regarding tick box, could it be> used wi...@Nathan:<BR/>> Regarding tick box, could it be<BR/>> used with text description?<BR/><BR/>I've just added tooltips into the current SVN version :-)<BR/><BR/>@Felipe:<BR/>Thanks for your reply!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10339806249189186547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-591179528445148028.post-89087037288389001882008-04-02T18:58:00.000+02:002008-04-02T18:58:00.000+02:00@Peter Penz:> Is it only the color or the > icon i...@Peter Penz:<BR/><BR/>> Is it only the color or the <BR/>> icon itself that indicates <BR/>> "delete" for you?<BR/><BR/>Both of them, maybe the tick should stay the same IMHO, be it a "+" or "v".<BR/><BR/><BR/>> Could you please let me <BR/>> know which size your icons<BR/>> have?<BR/><BR/>Sure man: http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8073/snapshot1ad7.png<BR/><BR/>Thank youAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-591179528445148028.post-85044735693944226762008-04-02T13:55:00.000+02:002008-04-02T13:55:00.000+02:00Regarding tick box, could it be used with text des...Regarding tick box, could it be used with text description?<BR/><BR/>Empty box: "Unselected"<BR/>Ticked box: "Selected"<BR/><BR/>Or would text cause problems with small icon sizes?Nathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11380577112086168134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-591179528445148028.post-51412383158743924622008-04-02T09:46:00.000+02:002008-04-02T09:46:00.000+02:00I usually upper right corner for select, but lower...I usually upper right corner for select, but lower left for open, so it is really great.<BR/>maybe rectangular or ark would be better:<BR/>here in menus zone I would anticipate select, in plus - open.<BR/>---++<BR/>-++++<BR/>+++++ <BR/>The best of all could be, if it would be possible to fade out select area of icon,<BR/>so no need of icon upon icon, thet is more neat.pilpilonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16521675570433370990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-591179528445148028.post-73599194637323374002008-04-02T08:16:00.000+02:002008-04-02T08:16:00.000+02:00@Henk:> Could someone explain to me just what> is ...@Henk:<BR/>> Could someone explain to me just what<BR/>> is the problem with double-click mode<BR/>> to begin with?<BR/><BR/>Nothing is wrong with the double-click mode in general. You can discuss for weeks about single- vs. double-click and will not find an answer which of both is the "better" solution. For absolute computer beginners the learning curve for double-clicking is higher (it's tricky for them clicking 2 times within the specific timespan without moving the mouse). On the other hand selecting items in the single-click mode is really a problem too. So all in all it's a matter of personal preference.<BR/><BR/>@Mat69:<BR/>> Now to the "icon-problem" what<BR/>> about a square with a tick inside,<BR/>> like a normal checkbox?<BR/><BR/>Already tried that (see answer somewhere above).<BR/><BR/>> Do you plan to incorporate this<BR/>> feature into gwenview,<BR/>> open-dialogs etc.<BR/><BR/>No, this is not planned yet. Gwenview already supports its own hover actions.<BR/><BR/>> Do you plan to add some other<BR/>> "hover"-icons like renaming ...? <BR/><BR/>No plans yet. I don't think context menus are evil and I don't want to replace the context menu... But I'm also not strictly against such an idea (e. g. like you said for touchscreen users this might make sense).Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10339806249189186547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-591179528445148028.post-63849518420258600852008-04-02T02:40:00.000+02:002008-04-02T02:40:00.000+02:00Could someone explain to me just what is the probl...Could someone explain to me just what is the problem with double-click mode to begin with? What's so difficult about click once: select and click twice: execute? Except off course that the former is used by Windows (so automatically scary)?<BR/>The first thing I do after installing KDE is switching to double-click mode.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-591179528445148028.post-21642703067108820902008-04-01T23:29:00.000+02:002008-04-01T23:29:00.000+02:00I have to add some things to what I posted before....I have to add some things to what I posted before.<BR/><BR/>I really like the basic idea: Improving the situation for people with touchscreens etc. and those that don't want to, don't know how to ... use keys to select files. Imo it is not good to be constantly forced to switch between mouse and keyboard unless it is really necessary like when you rename the file.<BR/><BR/>Now to the "icon-problem" what about a square with a tick inside, like a normal checkbox?<BR/><BR/>Do you plan to incorporate this feature into gwenview, open-dialogs etc. (not sure if it'd make sense in the later)?<BR/><BR/>Do you plan to add some other "hover"-icons like renaming ...? If yes, do you have an idea how to avoid Icon-clutter? --> I don't think adding other icons would be a good idea unless they'd be only added in a special "one-click-mode", because as it's now nothing can happen to your files, despite to fears, while renaming etc. change things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-591179528445148028.post-84484107879179709112008-04-01T20:22:00.000+02:002008-04-01T20:22:00.000+02:00how about the same symbol in two versions: one col...how about the same symbol in two versions: one colored and one grey to show whether the item is selected?<BR/><BR/>btw: a great featureAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com